The other two films are 1959's Rio Bravo and 1970's Rio Lobo. : Firing high has always been a problem, and it apparently does not stem solely from inadequate training. The dream of El Dorado, a lost city of gold, led many a conquistador on a fruitless trek to South America, but it was all wishful thinking. She then leans over to pick it up and her pants are clean again. Mississippi Alan keeps saying "Bowlie" when he's reciting the poem El Dorado by. It was Custers experience that it was much harder to find and catch an Indian than to actually fight him. Joey wears pants specifically tailored for a woman's figure. Overall, the pluses and minuses probably canceled each other out. : Identification of the Indian weapons is more uncertain. It seems that. It is the posturing that has increased with the introduction of firearms to the battlefield. When they both stand up, the hat is still on the floor of the barn. Marksmanship training in the frontier Army prior to the 1880s was almost nil. It had a muzzle velocity of 810 feet per second, with 400 foot-pounds of energy. When he comes indoors it is higher and further away from the edge. Joe never was much good on that piano, was he? The first time in two months I've felt like doing something for you, now you don't want me to do it. Yet the results do not speak highly of a supposedly highly trained, crack cavalry regiment. So it was important to have a good one. He ought to know better than that. paintball guns have attracted some 8.5 million users nationwide and have sent a rising number of targeted victims to hospital emergency rooms in recent years. : He was on the offensive. The long-range weapons the Indians had were too few (there is evidence of only one Sharps .45-70 at the battle) to make much of a difference. When he climbs off his horse only seconds later, his trousers are dry. 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Their preponderance of repeaters increased the Indians firepower, but the repeaters were only good at short ranges. Neither Custers weapons nor those the Indians used against him were the cause of his defeat. In the opening scene, Robert Mitchum puts his raised foot on the side of a bath. What handicapped the entire regiment, however, was inadequate training in marksmanship and fire discipline. Took you a long time to think of that one. The positions that Custers dead were found in did not indicate a strong defensive setup. If you have a question, write: Ask the Marshall, P.O. Bull Harris : [after the gunfight in the church] It would seem that if the sheriff just slept it off, he would have sobered up faster than with the hangover concoction that was given him by John Wayne's character. So, if a woman were to wear pants in the Victorian period, she would have had to wear men's pants which obviously conformed to a woman's body much differently. Theoretically, on the Little Bighorn, with a small-scale defense in suitable terrain with an open field of fire of a few hundred yards, several companies of cavalrymen in close proximity and under strict fire control could have easily held off two or three times their number of Indian warriors. Where'd you come from? Cole was shot in the lower left side of his back where the bullet lodged near the lower left side of his spine. Oh man, I don't remember the last time he was here. Yup. I told you I was no good with a gun. When JP is sitting at his desk after being shot, he grabs his injured leg, lifts it up, and turns to face Cole. : The carbine and the rifle had a capacity of 13 and 17 cartridges respectively. Knuckles Bandera #43963 : It has been said that the 7th Cavalry might have won had it still used the seven-shot Spencers it carried at the Washita battle in 1868, but the Spencers were no better in range or accuracy than the Henrys or Winchesters, and they carried fewer bullets. Looks like a Revolver!". : It is well-known that Custers men each brought a trapdoor Springfield and a Colt .45 to the Little Bighorn that June day in 1876. : El Dorado is a 1966 Western that is considered the second film in Howard Hawks' "trilogy" of films that featured John Wayne in a story of a sheriff who must defend his office against an aggressive outlaw element in the town. : Mississippi There were many good scenes . [about Cole and Mississippi going on patrol] Toward the latter portion of that scene, as she asks if she can see Jason, talk to him, her hair is tousled again, as if she's just been struggling with Mississippi. James Caan (1940-2022) was an American actor well known for his tough guy roles in film and television including such characters as Sonny Corleone in The Godfather, as Sgt. Reference: Quiz: John Wayne's El Dorado . and ONLY if utilized in pairs shot GF-style (allowances can be made for multi-limbed competitors). George Armstrong Custer may have done almost everything as prescribed. Inadequate training in marksmanship and poor fire discipline resulting from a breakdown in command control were major factors in the battle results. Reference: Quiz: El Dorado . Dividing up a command in the near presence of an enemy may be an act to be avoided during large-scale maneuvers with army-sized units, but such is not the case during small-scale tactical cavalry maneuvers. Bows and arrows played a part in the fight. When the last man at the church is shot, he grabs the center of his chest in the area of his sternum. After Mississippi kills Higgins with his knife, the scene goes back to him standing between Milt and Pedro, and Pedro dramatically throws his smoke to the floor, but now it is a short white cigarette. The bugle that Bull plays is a 4 note horn, which in reality cannot play some of the songs that Bull plays on it throughout the movie. The success of Henrys rifles ensured Winchesters success, and the primary weapon carried by the Indians at the Little Bighorn was either Henrys model or the slightly altered Winchester Model 1866. Sheriff J. P. Harrah Given the distances involved, the fact that soldiers tended to shoot high, the lack of marksmanship training and the conscious or subconscious posturing involved, it is not surprising that the troopers scored so few hits. Since much of the ammunition was probably lost Indians commented on capturing ammunition in cartridge belts and saddlebags the hit rate must have been higher. The version she is carrying appears to be the Remington-Keene Deluxe Sporter based on the design of the rifle stock and the long exposed barrel. : After Cole shoots the gun out of Milt's hand in the saloon, he tells Pedro to "Drop it!". : The film's cast includes James Caan, Ed Asner, and Robert Mitchum, whose son Christopher Mitchum would later co-star with Wayne in Rio Lobo and Big Jake. When Cole and Mississippi are eating dinner right after meeting, Mississippi is talking about his past. The Ordnance Department staged field trials of 89 rifles and carbines, which included entries from Peabody, Spencer, Freeman, Elliot and Mauser. | Bull Harris Watch it, the way your hand's shaking don't let it get near the trigger. : A good knife The first thing that any cowboy had was a good knife. Naturally influenced by his successful past experiences with small-unit tactics, Custer attacked. A North Dakota community rose up in rage and sorrow as its newspaper condemned the most atrocious crime in county history. Just after Mississippi throws himself in front of the horses, but before the horses reach him, he and a rectangular area around him are briefly more brightly lighted showing that his image may have simply been composited in over the original street. I forgot the words, but you better say 'I do'! If the officers called for the sights to be set for 500 yards to hit Indians issuing from the village and did not call for a subsequent sight adjustment by the time the Indians approached to 300 yards, the bullets would be flying 12 feet over their heads. As Maudie, leaning on an open door, speaks with Cole just before his departure to Sonora, her position and that of the door's window shade change between front and rear shots. Annoyer of the Higher Pay Grades. When the camera changes to the inside, a shadow of someone walking up to the door can be seen. This is meaningless, however. The Winchester, in fact, was almost a duplicate of the repeater developed by B. Tyler Henry, who was to become superintendent at Oliver Winchesters New Haven Arms Company. Captain Thomas A. French of Company M carried a .50-caliber Springfield that his men called Long Tom. Sergeant John Ryan, also of Company M, used a .45-caliber, 15-pound Sharps telescopic rifle, specially made for him. Alternate Versions However, 1,000 soldiers could probably beat 2,000 irregulars. Cole : What I want is a 27 (I think???) Miles commented on their usefulness: I am not surprised that poor Custer declined taking them along, he said. Two irregular warriors could probably defeat three soldiers. When Mississippi test fires his new double-barreled shotgun, the horses do not react to either the supposedly loud bang or the bright muzzle flash, despite being only a few feet away, showing these effects were added to the scene later. Cole In 1883, Colt began building these rifles, and soon caught the eye of Winchester. Dan Suggs used a revolving carbine in Lonesome Dove. Answer: sawed off double barrel shotgun. Bull Harris : Trouble is, Doc, Cole was in front of the gun. Anyone know what rifle I'm talking about? I ain't started yet. Mississippi remembered it on the way to the store. While another person was preparing to remove : Before, and during the shootout at the church Bull fires more than 10 shots very quickly, without the minutes it takes to reload. Bull Harris The morning after Cole and Mississippi arrive in El Dorado, they are walking back to the Sheriff's office. At the end when Cole finds out that Maudie is upset with him, Bull states that "If You were running for president, I reckon you wouldn't get her vote." Marshall Trimble is Arizona's official historian. After the Battle of Gettysburg, 24,000 loaded muskets were recovered; only 12,000 of them had been loaded more than once, 6,000 had from three to 10 rounds in the barrel, and one weapon had been loaded 23 times! El Dorado is a 1966 Western that is considered the second film in Howard Hawks' "trilogy" of films that featured John Wayne in a story of a sheriff who must defend his office against an aggressive outlaw element in the town. Bull Harris Ordnance testing in 1874 narrowed the field to two final contenders: the Colt Single Action Army and the Smith & Wesson Schofield. One conclusion is that a great number of soldiers are simply posturing and not trying to kill the enemy. At the end, when Cole goes looking for Maudie, the position of JP's crutch, leaning on the end of the desk, changes back and forth between camera angles. In the next shot, the hand-kerchief is in a different position. What kind of rifle does bull carry in El Dorado? : Seemingly out of supporting distance of his comrades, the individual trooper found himself desperately alone. No one witnessed his assassination - the gun was silenced - and a killer was . I do! Just a moment before this though, Mississippi's back could be seen as he entered the cantina, and there was no visible sign of such a large knife being carried behind his back, either on or underneath his rather snug-fitting shirt. Both fired a .44-caliber Henry rimfire cartridge. About 100 troopers on Renos line may have fired half of their ammunition toward the southern edge of the Indian village. The guns were all tested for defective cartridges, endurance, accuracy, rapidity of fire, firing with excessive charges, and effects of dust and rust. The 5,000 bullets only hit one or two Indians, but they certainly damaged the lodges. Its effective range dropped off rapidly over 60 yards, however. Cole Thornton describes the hired gun, Nelson McCloud, as tall and dark, with a scar on his cheek. Did Custers Men Try to Flee During the Battle of the Little Bighorn? RO-I & RO-II & WB-RO, Lonestar Frontier Shooting Club, Comanche Valley Vigilantes. John Wayne's "El Dorado". CAS, Shooting, Electric Mountain Biking, Motorcycles, Jeeps, RC Racing, Steam Trains & collecting Vintage Pocket Watches. and "LET'S GO, BRANDON", Ray's Gang Member. A bunch of howlin' indians out for hair'll do it quicker'n anything I know. Best Revolvers for Beginners Ruger Wrangler. You know these wounds were made by buckshot don't you? Book CCW Class. Bull Harris James Caan holds a cutdown 12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun as MIssissippi in El Dorado. When Cole meets Mississippi outside of the cantina and complains that he has not had his supper, several of the lanterns behind Cole contain incandescent light bulbs. And if it wasn't capped, capping in on the clock would burn up a lot of time. The safe place is behind Mississippi when he shoots that thing. Bull Harris At the end, when Cole goes looking for Maudie, JP has his leg propped up on the desk. Usually (but not in this case), the production would disguise the revolvers with a fake ejector rod to make it resemble an SAA. Mississippi The dead soldiers found pincushioned with arrows, however, were undoubtedly riddled at close range after they were already dead or badly wounded. Good Sippin' Irish Whiskey, Serving Him, I hope you don't blow him up! Texas TinHorns and Ft. 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Arguably, the most iconic firearm of the silver screen West is the Peacemaker Colt, with the mellow ivory-looking stocks, so often carried by John Wayne in memorable films, such as El Dorado, Cahill, U.S. One of the best showings ever made by soldiers was at Rorkes Drift in an 1879 battle between the Zulus and the British infantry. Shock'd be too much. Sheriff J. P. Harrah Technical Specs, [about Cole and Mississippi going on patrol]. I'm guessing its a 6 shooter, which would make a reload necessary for a typical 10 shot SASS stage. El Dorado Gun Club 2 Gun/Rifle Ranges Closed until 11:00 AM From beginner to advanced, DefenseSHOT offers a relaxed, fun, and efficient . Men, soldiers or not, simply have an innate resistance to killing. I'd sooner have you hungover and nasty. Although Colt. After Cole shoots Luke MacDonald he rides across the stream, which gets the front of his trousers wet. Joe the piano player is clearly just patting the keyboard; his hand motions do not match the music on the soundtrack. When Mississippi test fires the shotgun it changes from an outdoor (on location) shot to a movie studio background plate on. Company Credits Pretty tough to shoot gunfighter though. A Hunkpapa woman, Moving Robe, claimed the bullets shattered the tepee poles, and another Hunkpapa woman, Pretty White Buffalo, stated that through the tepee poles their bullets rattled. The relatively low muzzle velocity of the Springfield meant that the soldier would have had to aim quite a bit over the head of an Indian for any chance to hit him at long distance. Bull Harris In 1855, it was one of the first weapons of mass destruction! What rifle is Bull using? Here's your gunpowder. Sheriff Harran's deputy Bull Harris (Arthur Hunnicutt) is armed with the Colt Model 1855 Carbine throughout the film. 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